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Transcript and images from the Tony Danza Show
Original broadcast: Friday, December 10, 2004.


with guest William Shatner
Star of "Boston Legal" and "Star Trek"




Tony Danza
Tony: Now, our first guest is known all across the galaxy as Captain James T. Kirk from the TV phenomenon "Star Trek." Now he's beamed onto a new hit drama -- the ABC drama, excuse me, "Boston Legal." Have a look...


James Spader as Alan Shore William Shatner as Denny Crane
Denny Crane: "All my life I wanted the Red Sox to win the World Series. Like a quest, you know, something burning inside -- and now the bastards have done it, and I feel like, I don't know, like my pilot light went out."
Alan Shore: "I know what you mean. We've been comfortable, aspiring to championship. I don't know how comfortable we are as champions."
Crane: "What do we do now?"
Shore: "I don't know."
Crane: "It must be awful, rooting for the Yankees."
Shore: "Ha!"


Tony: Ha, ha!

( Applause )

Tony: Set your phasers on fun. Here's Emmy winner William Shatner.

( Cheers and applause. Shatner appears. )

Tony: Hey! Hi-ya, man, thank you for coming. Have a seat. (Pointing to standing audience members.) Hey, look at that. How about that, huh?


Shatner: Those people aren't standing.

Tony: I know, that side. This is your side of the audience.

Shatner: That side --

Tony: That's your side. Have a seat. That's your --

Shatner: Why... Why did they stand, and they didn't?

( Light laughter )

Tony: Well, I'll tell you why: Because we got a game set up... For the game we're going to play later, called "I know Shatner," and that's your side of the audience.

( Cheers and applause )

Shatner: I got one individual.

Tony: Oh, look, there's a couple of traitors over there! How are you, sir?

Shatner: Now, good.

Tony: What do you mean, "Now?" What --

Shatner: Now that I'm here and seeing you, ...

Tony: Oh, good. I appreciate you being here.

Shatner: ...my old Malibu friend.

Tony: That's true, huh! I appreciate... We go way back.

Shatner: You're gone.

Tony: I know. I'm a New York guy, now.

Shatner: Uh, the restaurant...

Tony: I'm rooting -- I'm rooting for the Yankees.

Shatner: ...is lesser for... Yeah! There's nothing to root for in Los Angeles.

Tony: That's for sure. Anyway. I was mad at the Dodgers when they traded LoDuca, anyway. The curse of the LoDuca; I put that on them.

Shatner: Ah, it's an Italian name, who cares?!

Tony: At this show, big time!

Shatner: Eh, Danza! Eh, Danza!


Tony: So, you know, we go way back. First time we actually met, um, we had a little problem.

Shatner: We did?

Tony: Yes, because you were the captain of the "Battle of the Network Stars" team for ABC. Remember, they used to do "Battle of the Network Stars"; and I was on the team --

( Applause )

Shatner: You don't look that old.

Tony: I was on the team.

Shatner: Yeah.

Tony: It was like, you know, Battle Stars...

Shatner: Galactica.

Tony: ...of the Network, 17, something like that.

Shatner: Really?

Tony: Yeah. So, it had been going -- in fact, Howard Cosell was the announcer. He said to me, when he saw me, he went, "Tony Danza, you are the worst fighter I have ever seen."

( Light laughter )

Tony: It was a rough day. But, do you remember? Do you remember what happened?

Shatner: Uh, no. I have no recollection of the event, at all.


Tony: All right. Well, what happened was, is that, we were getting ready to play football, which is one of the events, and I said "Bill, put me in. I'm good. Put me in."

Shatner: Yeah. Yeah.

Tony: And you benched me. You didn't use me.

Shatner: You know why?

Tony: Why?

Shatner: You were the clumsiest --

( Laughter )

Shatner: This ex-punk comes in, "Eh, I'm a fighter." How do you slip a punch, Tony?

Tony: You slip a punch by... You see, what it is is, um, when you are used to seeing punches --

Shatner: Come on, stand up.

Tony: Well, okay.

( Shatner and Danza stand, taking a sparring pose )

Tony: When you're used to seeing punches --

Shatner: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tony: All right. So, what happens -- a guy throws a punch at you, and you're not used to it, you go (ducking) "Ahhh!"


Shatner: Yeah. Yeah.

Tony: Right? Okay, but, if you're used to it -- if your jab comes like, at my nose --

Shatner: Yeah. Okay, I'm coming. Here I come. (tosses a straight left jab)

Tony (bobbing his head aside): I just put my head here.

Shatner: Okay, but what happens if my --

Tony: No, no. It goes right there.

Shatner: What if it doesn't go there? What if it's going there!? (taps Tony's chin)

Tony: Well, sometimes you don't slip them. That's the idea. But, sometimes --

Shatner: Oh, but, what... You're just standing there! Look. You just stand there.

Tony: That's all you do! I just move just a tiny bit. And then, when you do that, then you're ready to "Pow! Pop!"

Shatner: Oh, I see. Aha!

Tony (laughing): Get out of here!


( Laughter and applause )

Tony: So -- you kill me -- so, you know, we had, uh --

Shatner: But, wait a minute. What kind of a fight? I... Have you ever done this? I mean, I don't want to go into old information, but, I'm fascinated by the fact that you sing, so well...

Tony: Thank you.

Shatner: ...you're such a funny guy, and you were a boxer. I mean, it just doesn't seem right.

Tony: Well, you know, we... I grew up in a neighborhood, in New York, where, uh, fighting was sort of like another game we played.

Shatner: Yeah.

Tony: You know. It was either, like, "You want to play punch ball, or stick ball, or let's get into a fight." You know, it's like that kind of a thing.

( Light laughter )

Shatner: Yeah.

Tony: So, it was really part of me, uh, growing up. That's what we did.

Shatner: But, then you became a professional fighter.


Tony: Then I got... A couple of guys challenged me. Actually, they just entered me in the Golden Gloves, as a joke; because, in New York, you just fill out the entry blank, in the daily news. I got the notice for, you know, to report for my physical -- I thought I got drafted, for a second, you know.

( Light laughter )

Tony: But, I went, and I did pretty well my first year; and I got hooked.

Shatner: How well?

Tony: I went to the semifinals, my first year. I knocked out the first six guys I fought.

Shatner: And then what happened? How good did you --

Tony: Then I got knocked out. I got knocked out, and then, uh, and then I turned pro -- I went one more year in the Golden Gloves, then I turned pro. And, I boxed for about three years; and, I was a ten round... but, I was a club fighter.

Shatner: Did you make money?


Tony: I made a little money, but, you know, what I tried to do --

Shatner: What were you trying to do? Why were you --

Tony: I wanted to be champion of the world!

Shatner: Ah.

( Laughter )

Shatner: And, now you are!

( Applause )

Tony: Yeah. I, well, you know. I... I... You know what's funny is, it just turned into your talk show. I just noticed.

( Laughter )

Tony: But, um, you know, we had Jason Alexander here, the other day.

Shatner: Why?

Tony: Well, that's a good question.

( Shatner and the audience chuckle )

Tony: But, we, um... He's got a new show. But, he does a great imitation of you, you know.

Shatner: No, he doesn't.

Tony: Yes, he does.


Shatner: No, he doesn't.

Tony: Oh, well, let me just show... Can I show it to you?

Shatner: Please.

Tony: Because I got it. Take a look at this...



Jason Alexander

Jason Alexander: I... I can do most of the original "Star Trek" episodes, pretty much line for line.

Tony: Line for line.

Jason: And as him, by the way.

Tony: How... Could we see a little?


Jason (in Kirk-speak): "Risk! Risk... is our business. That's what this starship is all about. That's why we're aboard...!"

( Applause )

Shatner: That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

( Applause )

Shatner: Almost as good as mine.

Tony: Yeah. He was good, though.

Shatner (in Kirk-speak): "Almost... as good as mine."


Tony: Aha.

( Light laughter )

Tony: So, you like doing "Boston Legal"?

Shatner: "Boston Legal" is sexy...

Tony: Yeah.


Shatner: ...it's intelligent, and it's entertaining. It's on Sundays at 10 o'clock, on ABC.

Tony: Wait, we're going to do... wait, we have time --

Shatner: I thought I'd mention it, while I was passing by!

( Light laughter )

Tony: Wait, wait. You won an Emmy, though...

Shatner: I won an Emmy.

Tony: ...and this is --

Shatner: How did you know that?

Tony: Because, I, I... know, you know. Congratulations, and, um, deservedly so; the show is great. I really like it. I had, uh, I had the opportunity to do "The Practice," a couple of times. I know you were there; that's how this all started.

Shatner: Did you win an Emmy?

Tony: No, I got nominated.

Shatner: Everybody else... You got nominated?!

Tony: I got nominated, though. I did.

( Shatner high-fives Tony )


Tony: Thank you.

Shatner: You should have won!

( Applause )

Tony: Should have won. All right. Look. We know that you are... You always have eighteen thousand things going on in your life.

Shatner: Yes.

Tony: Okay, and we want to give you a chance and see... but we want to do it as... like a little contest. We want to see how many plugs you can get in, in 30 seconds.

Shatner: Okay. But, remember, it's not the number, it's the quality!

Tony: Yes. Absolutely, yes. Absolutely.


Shatner: So, if I do one plug for 30 seconds --

Tony: Well, I guess, no. We want to see...

Shatner: All right. No. Okay.

Tony: We want to see how good you are.

Shatner: All right. All rrrr rarr rrrar...

Tony: Okay. You ready?

Shatner: Yeah.

Tony: Put 30 seconds on the clock, please. All right, there you go. Where is his camera? Right here, right? Camera three? Okay. Ready, and go!


Shatner: "Has Been," a great album, got stunning notices; it's in your neighborhood stores, and stores that are beyond your neighborhood.

( A bell dings, counting the plug )

Shatner: But... uhhhh... heh-heh... uhhhh... "Invasion Iowa" --

Tony: Invasion Iowa!

Shatner: "Invasion Iowa"; going to be on Spike television in March, great reality show. Ummmm. Dari, D-A-R-I, Ventura Boulevard, great women's store.

( Ding. Light laughter )


Shatner: Uhhh... uhhhh... C.O.R.E., C--O--R--E, great --

( Ding. Shatner pauses. )

Tony: They're just giving you --

Shatner: Is that the telephone? Oh. C.O.R.E., a great, uh...

( Buzzer. Time's up. )

Shatner: ...computer graphics firm in --

( Applause )

Tony: Bill.

Shatner: No. No. No. Give me another 30 seconds.

Tony: No, let me get "Boston Legal." Let me do "Boston Legal," because --

Shatner: Okay.

Tony: I'm really... I'm into the show --

Shatner: Don't stutter, the way I did.

Tony: No, no, no. Listen... wh-when we... wh-whuh... "Boston Legal" is on ABC.

Shatner: You're stuttering!

Tony: It's catching! When we come back, we'll see who knows more about Bill, me or him, in a game we like to call "I know Shatner." So, don't go away.



( Cheers and applause. Commercial break... )


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Announcer: It's time to play "I know Shatner."


Announcer: Here's your host, Ereka Vetrini...

Ereka: Welcome to "I know --

Shatner: There's something the matter with that girl's ears!



Ereka Vetrini

Ereka: I'm "Vulcon Vetrini" to you, Mr. Shatner.

Tony (rings his bell): Vulcan Vetrini.

Ereka: Ayyyy!

Tony: Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.

Ereka: Welcome to "I know Shatner." I'm your host, from the planet of Vulcon, Ereka Vetrini.

Tony: It's Vulcan, not Vulcon!

Ereka: Vulcan. Sorry.

Shatner (to Tony): Every time you go like that (rings his bell) I want to come out and fight.

Ereka: All right, let's meet our contestants. You know them already. Mister...

Tony: Uh, oh, yes, I'm Tony Danza -- and I know Shatner!

( Applause )

Ereka: Highly illogical.

Shatner: And I... am William Shatner, and I'm forgetting Shatner.


Tony: No, no!

( Laughter )

Ereka: All right, here's how it works: I'm going to ask Tony and William about his life and career. First person to ringing gets a chance to answer it. If you get it wrong, your opponent gets a chance to answer it.

Tony: All right.

Ereka: Okay?

Tony: Yeah.

Ereka: If Tony wins, the right side of the audience gets a portable CD player from Amazing Savings.

Tony: Here it is. Here it is. I have it right here. (holds up CD player)

( Cheers from right side of audience )

Ereka: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tony: Here it is. Auto-skip player.

Ereka: Where you can get brand name merchandise, for less.

Shatner: Tony Stanza.

Ereka: But, if William wins, the left side gets the CD player.

( Cheers from left side of audience )

Shatner: That's my side!

Tony: Okay, here we go. Let's go.


Ereka: Are you guys ready? Hands on the buzzers. No cheating. Question number one: Bill played the title role in the hit TV show "T. J. Hooker" --

( Shatner rings his bell )

Ereka: Ahhh!

Tony: Hey...!

Shatner: I know.

Ereka: What did "T. J. Hooker" stand for?

Shatner: I know what she was going to say. "Thomas Jefferson."

Tony: Nuh, you!

( Cheers from left side of audience )

Ereka: One for Mr. Shatner.

Tony: I think you've got to wait until the question comes out!

Shatner: The question was out!

Tony: The question... She was in the middle of the question!

Shatner: Ayyy!! (holds up his fists)

Tony: All right!

Ereka: No fighting over here. When Bill was growing up in Montreal, Canada, he had a job delivering hotdogs for a local restaurant. What was the name of the restaurant?

( Shatner pounds his ringer; feigns injury. Laughter. )


Ereka: William, you get first shot.

Shatner: "Orange Julius."

Audience member: No!

Shatner: "Julep!"

Ereka: Yeah!

( Applause )

Shatner: Julep! Julep! Julep!

Tony: Awww!

Ereka: Beam him up.

Tony: That's not fair. Cheater! Cheater!

Ereka: Okay, question number three: Which one of Bill's champion horses did he ride on in the 1994 film "Star Trek: Generations"?

Tony: Um. Um. Uhhhh...

Audience member: Come on, Tony!

( Shatner slams his ringer )

Tony (to Shatner): I remember... I can't remember... it's, um... You have two champions.

Shatner: "T.J."

Ereka (noises to the negative): Mmmmtt, mmmmmttt, mmmrrruh...

Shatner: "T.J."

Tony: No, it's the "Battle of the Network Stars" or something.

Ereka: Wrong, both of you. "Great Bells of Fire."

Tony: "Great Bells of Fire." Son of a gun. All right.

Ereka: Now we're getting to know Shatner. Here we go.

Tony (to Shatner): Why don't you give me some of these answers?!

Ereka: Question number four: "Hukbar" and "kreplach"; which word is Klingon...

( Danza slams his ringer )

Ereka: ...and which word is Yiddish?

Tony: I got it! "Kreplach" is Yiddish, and the other one is Klingon.


( Right-wing applause )

Ereka: Yeah, yeah.

Tony: All right. I'm in the game! Don't worry, gang.

Shatner: But, you can eat either one of them!

Tony: Oh, is that true?

( Laughter )

Tony: No, I think it means... What does it mean? That word means something. That word means something!

Ereka: I don't have --

Tony: It means, like, "Good wish for you," or something.

Shatner: Yeah. "Eat it!"

Tony: "Good will."

Shatner: No.

Ereka: "Eat it."

Shatner: It means, "Eat this!"

( Laughter )

Shatner: And, kreplach, you do.

Tony: Come on! I wanna get --

Ereka: Okay. On Bill's 1968 album, "The Transformed Man," he covered which popular Beatles song?

( Shatner and Danza both hammer their ringers )

Tony: Ohh, no!

Shatner: Ayyyy!

Tony: Ohhh, no!

Shatner: Simultaneous!


Tony: Nooo, no! I got you!

Shatner: My side --

Tony: "Lucy in the sky with diamonds."

Ereka: Yeah.

( Danza does a victory dance. Shatner does a jig. )

Ereka: All right. Ready? Question number six: "Bill --

( Shatner throttles his ringer )

Ereka: He's very confident! Here we go.

( Danza laughs along with the audience )

Tony: Go ahead, give him the question.

Shatner: Come on!

Ereka: Bill's 1965 film, "Incubus," is the only American movie, in history, spoken entirely in what language?

( Shatner hesitates... )


Tony: OoOOohh!

Ereka: Oh, dear.

Shatner: "Esperanto."


Tony: Oh, you dog.

( Cheers and applause from the left )

Ereka: All right, guys. I'm sorry, time is up. We have to go to Final Shatner.

Tony: Final Shatner!

Shatner: Final Shatner.

Ereka: The score is 3 to 2. Okay --

Tony: Oh, geez, I need --

Shatner: Three to two.

Tony: I need this one.

Ereka: Yes, and in Final Shatner there's only one question; whoever gets it right, wins.

Tony: Oh!

Shatner: Okay.

Ereka: You have to write down your answer -- and no cheating!

Shatner (to Tony): No cheating!

Ereka: In episode 63 of "Star Trek"...

Tony (to Shatner): Don't cheat!

Ereka: ...called "For the World is Hollow, and I Have Touched the Sky," Doctor McCoy tells Captain Kirk that he has a rare space disease. Name that disease.

( Star Trek theme song is played. Applause. )

Audience chants and claps: Tony!... Tony!... Tony!...


Ereka: Okay, time's up. Let's see your answer. Shatner -- Mr. Shatner -- you first.

Shatner: Shatner.

Ereka: Shatner.

Shatner (holds up answer card): "Hemorrhoids."

( Laughter )


Tony (with a tone of victory): Ah-ha!

Ereka: "Ah," that's not right.

Shatner: Well, it was towards the end of the season.

Tony (holds up card): I think it's "Polytheocemia."


Ereka: What are you guys talking about? Neither! The right answer is "xeno-polythenisemi..." I can't even say it.

Tony: Wait a minute. I'm clo--... Say it again.

Ereka: Here. (Hands over answer card.) Say that.

Shatner: You're such a cheater!


Tony: Oh, I forgot the "xeno."

Shatner: You were fed this answer, and you can't remember it!

( Laughter )

Shatner: It was hemorr--

Tony: I'll tell you what -- I'll tell you what...

Shatner: I have to repeat my line: It was hemorrhoids, and it was towards the end of the season.


Tony: Tell you... Yeah, okay. Anyway. You know what, everybody is getting the CD player.

( Applause )

Tony: Bill, thank you so much. Oh, what fun. I love you. You are the greatest. Hey, "Boston Legal" airs Sunday nights, on ABC; and his new CD, "Has Been," is in stores right now.

( Applause )


Tony: We'll be right back. Thanks, Bill, I appreciate it.


(Cheers and applause. End of William Shatner's segment.)


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